134. ELLIE ZEILER’s Advice for Teens: Mental Health, Relationships, Confidence, Social Media, & More!

Feb 9

listen to this episode:

Today's guest is Ellie Zeiler, an 18 year-old social media influencer, model, actress, and podcaster who boasts almost 11 million followers on TikTok. In this episode, we discuss Ellie's experiences as a social media creator and her advice for teens, including how to find your identity and build self-confidence, overcome bullying, use social media in a healthy way, become more independent, navigate relationships with friends and family, and stay on top of your mental health.

Ellie's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elliezeiler/

Mentioned In The Episode…

+ Ellie's TikTok

+ Ellie's Youtube

+ Ellie's Podcast

+ Ellie's podcast ep. on independence

+ Asana

SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

Episode Sponsors

🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

About She Persisted (formerly Nevertheless, She Persisted)

After a year and a half of intensive treatment for severe depression and anxiety, 18-year-old Sadie recounts her journey by interviewing family members, professionals, and fellow teens to offer self-improvement tips, DBT education, and personal experiences. She Persisted is the reminder that someone else has been there too and your inspiration to live your life worth living.

a note: this is an automated transcription so please ignore any accidental misspellings!

Sadie: [00:00:00] Welcome to She Persisted. I'm your host, Sadie Sutton, a 19 year old from the Bay Area studying psychology at the University of Penn. She Persisted is the Teen Mental Health Podcast made for teenagers by a teen. In each episode, I'll bring you authentic, accessible, and relatable conversations about every aspect of mental wellness.

You can expect evidence-based, teen approved resources, coping skills, including lots of D B T insights and education in. Each piece of content you consume, she persisted, Offers you a safe space to feel validated and understood in your struggle, while encouraging you to take ownership of your journey and build your life worth living.

So let's dive in this week on She persisted.

Ellie: before, if a friend was treating me badly, I would put up with it because I was like, I'm really scared to be alone versus the fact that I know myself and I know that I'm going to be okay.

Either way, it kind of forced me to. Find better friends, and I'm still on that journey, very [00:01:00] much so looking for good people to surround myself with, but I know that I can always be there for myself. .

Hello. Hello and welcome back to She Persisted. I'm so excited for today's episode. We have a very exciting guest today, Ellie Zeller's on the podcast, and we are getting real, we are getting vulnerable. We're talking all things. Social media, mental health, bullying, creating a sense of identity independence, really just pulling the curtain back on what it's like to grow up as a teen and also be a creator with a large audience.

Ellie shares so much of her experience. This is such a fun convo, so I really hope you enjoy it. As always, make sure to share on social media, write a review, follow along if you like this episode, and with that, let's dive in.

Sadie: well, thank you so much for joining me today, Ellie. I'm so excited to have you. And she persist. Thank you

Ellie: for having me. I'm excited to talk

Sadie: with you. Of course. So I wanted to start with something that you've touched on a lot before, which is [00:02:00] having and cultivating a sense of identity, which is something that so many teens struggle with.

Your teenage years is the time you're finding yourself, you're trying to figure out what your interests are, who you get along with, and what I think is so unique. Brown, do your story. Done this while also having input and opinions from so many other people, which is so challenging and so difficult.

So I feel like if anyone has tips for how to listen to your own interests and opinions and not kind of get caught up in what anyone else is saying, it would be you. So I'd love to kind of get your thoughts on cultivating a sense of identity as a teen and what it's been like to navigate doing that with so many other people weighing in and giving their input.

Yeah, for

Ellie: sure. What a great and loaded question. . It's a big one. I think like, starting off with just when I got onto social media, I was 16, I'm now 18, and that was really hard in itself because I feel like I had so many people judging me on a daily basis and like who I was. But again, I was 16, like I [00:03:00] didn't even know who I was or have a strong sense of identity myself.

And so I feel. with being on social media, added on to just being a teenager in this day and age. It was definitely like a whole other side to having to really lock down who I was because I had to show people who I was, which is. Very hard on yourself.

Sadie: Any tips or advice for listeners that are struggling to understand who they are, especially with other people weighing in, whether it's a parent or a family member or friends or people in their community and they're trying to find the sense of identity, but they're really struggling to do it on their

Ellie: own.

Yeah, for sure. Which I struggled with as well. I think that, Finding your identity. It comes with a lot of trial and error, and I feel like growing up I was interested in so many different things, but I didn't wanna explore it because I was worried about failing because I was worried about what other people's input would be.

And so I think that like blocking out the [00:04:00] noise and doing what you. is passionate about, is the most important part into finding who you are at some point.

Sadie: Mm-hmm. , another thing that so many teens struggle with, especially in middle school and high school, is bullying. And you've talked so much about this on your platform, whether it's on social media or experiences in high school, before you started doing social media, what was that like to navigate?

Ellie: It was really hard, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah. It was really hard because. . I sadly, by the time I got onto social media, I was used to being bullied. I was bullied, which I feel like I really dislike the word bullied because I feel like it's so cliche and I've been for so long, like we need to come up with a new word because me saying that like, oh, I was bullied in.

High School just seemed so like a storybook and like a, again cliche. So that aside though, I feel like in high school I was [00:05:00] always maybe the odd one out. And I feel like people just always had an opinion on what I was doing. And so when I got on social media, it's kind of sad to say that I was used to it.

And I think that that's when I really learned. the only person that's really going to be there for yourself, your whole life is yourself. And so like only worry about what you are doing. Like don't judge other people. And because if you judge other people, you're opening up to people judging you as well, and that hitting you.

And I, I just feel like it, it stems with confidence. If you have confidence in yourself, which is so hard to achieve, I still don't have full confidence in myself to be honest. Growing that and developing that as you get older can help with combating the bullying, if that makes sense. Yeah.

Sadie: What do you do on those days where you're not feeling as confident about yourself?

It's more difficult to kind of shut off the noise and [00:06:00] just focus on your own opinion. What are your tips when you really are struggling and you're hearing everyone's opinions and that noise and it's, it's more difficult to block

Ellie: it out. Yeah. I. Just turn off my phone. Yeah. And I like text the people that I love, like my mom and my dad being like, I am gonna have a breakdown.

I need to turn off my phone. And it sounds so kind of boring, but I literally go on a walk outside. And I do things that make me feel good. My mom always taught me that , working out and getting endorphins is always good for your mental health. And so whenever I feel like everything's closing in on me.

I feel like I have to leave my phone and leave technology and get outside and do something that is different from my path. Like I think that with social media being my career and being my job, there's a lot of pressure to have it be going good all the time, if that makes sense. And I think that when too much pressure is put [00:07:00] on that, or too many opinions are getting to me, I have to do something that only I feel good about doing.

Like, for example, I started learning how to play the piano and like I just go and play piano, and that's something that no one can put their opinion on because it's just something that I'm passionate about.

Sadie: I love that. I think that's so important and something that any teen can apply. And I think especially with the idea of shutting things off, whether it's like setting a boundary after school or on the weekends, and again, just really spending time with those people that love and care about you and you know, are gonna support you and making sure that those, the people that you're surrounding yourselves with when you are a little bit more vulnerable to really feeling all the feelings about being judged and bullied and all those

Ellie: things completely.

Is a full-time job. Like, yeah. For me to be able to say, like, put down my phone , it's like a job for me to have to leave my phone and do it. It's not something that comes. Naturally and easy to me to just be like, oh, I can just switch it off and not care about what people, [00:08:00] no, that's not like how I am at all.

I have to be so cautious and like aware of what I'm letting in and when I literally feel, sometimes I just go to sleep. Like sometimes I love it. I feel like there are too many opinions on me. I have had that feeling so many times. I feel just like everything's crashing in on me and my space is getting smaller.

I just have to shut my mind off and like, yeah, you

Sadie: know, a hundred percent.

Ellie: Sometimes it's okay to just give up for the day and. Check out and try again

Sadie: tomorrow. Yeah. So I'm sure you get asked this question all the time because I get asked this question all the time, and you obviously have a much bigger platform, but social media and mental health, every adult wants every teen to weigh in on this of how to make it a healthy relationship.

We know that the data shows that using social media can be bad for your mental health, but it's. It feels unavoidable at this point because it's, it's how we connect with so many people. It's a huge part of our lives, and [00:09:00] so I'd love to get your thoughts here on mental health and social media and what that's been like as a creator.

Ellie: It, it's been very interesting because I remember when social media wasn't my full-time job and I was just a high school student that like had Instagram and TikTok and Snapchat and all the different platforms, and my mom would be like, I'm gonna take it away from you. Like, I see that it's affecting you.

And I know that feeling of being like, I'm gonna be cut off from society. This is ingrained in everyone these days. Mm-hmm. And I think like a tip for me for. Making social media seem less harsh or toxic is unfollowing people that make me feel bad. Sometimes my mom will text me and be like, unfollow 30 people that don't make you feel good.

Like I follow what, 800, 900 people right now? Yeah. I need to see what all of those people are doing. And so sometimes when I catch myself, compar. Myself to [00:10:00] people that are different than me. I just have to unfollow them. Yeah.

Sadie: Who are like two to three people that you follow that do make you feel really good, that make you laugh or just boost your mood that you love saying pop up on your feed?

Ellie: One of them, I really like this girl. Her name's Anna Paul. She's like, have you ever seen her video? I don't think so. Okay. She like vlogs, but she is just real and shows herself and has a really cute accent. I really like her. Let's see.

Sadie: My go-to answer for this is always like, I'm deep on nail TikTok and I love videos of people getting their nails done. Oh my God. It's so calming. They're my favorite. Oh, but that's like Ripple for you, Paige .

Ellie: See it.

This is gonna sound so like I'm five years old. It's slime videos. Like I could watch slime videos for so long, or. The outrageous skiing or snowboard videos where people are like going down the mountain and it just seems very calm. I feel like. Yeah. [00:11:00] Anything that doesn't have to do with a person or like their face is very relaxing to me for something Totally.

or ASMR too, apparently.

Sadie: Yeah. Things , sometimes asmr. I just can't, it stresses me out more. I don't know why I, it's like it's a hit or a miss for people and for me, whenever I watch asmr, I'm like, wait, you can't do this. Yeah, it's too, it like feels too much in my head, . But I love that. I love the slime, packaging videos when they get all the little add-ons and like put it together.

Those are my favorite. I

Ellie: love. like I love, it's so satisfying so much. Yeah, no, like me too. I love when like they add the little char. I love how we're going on about Slack, right. . When they're put the charms in and

Sadie: yes, I love it. No, a hundred percent. Yeah. Has your mental health gotten better or worse, would you say since you started using social media?

More is a job and more from like a professional perspective rather than just using it to spend your free time on

Ellie: I think that, . It's gotten better and worse in different ways. Mm-hmm. versus like [00:12:00] when I was, see now when I'm on my phone too much, sometimes in my own head, I justify being on my phone way too much because I'm like, oh, it's my job.

It's where my career is, like I'm allowed to scroll on TikTok cause I'm looking for ideas, which is just not true. I'm just talk. But I think that it's been much easier for me to. , like I feel like when I didn't use, for example, Instagram for my job, I would be really self-conscious about what my friends and people at my schools were thinking about me.

Mm-hmm. cause I knew them on a personal level versus now having people that I don't necessarily know in person and having it like be called my job. Kind of takes the pressure off a little bit where if I post something and I'm thinking about like, oh, what does blah, blah, blah from high school? Yeah, think of it.

Or like college, whatever. I think like it's my job, it's my career. My mom always has to tell me like, this is entertainment and you're here to entertain, which. . [00:13:00] It kind of takes the pressure off

Sadie: me. Very. Yeah. Yeah. No, a hundred percent. I think that makes a ton of sense, and if anyone asks, you can always just be like, I had to, it was like a brand obligation had to be posted

Exactly. I love that. I think that's really interesting. I noticed that as well when I started to use social media more through the lens of the podcast instead of. Using it personally, it became more something where it was more creative and it was more finding inspiration rather than just comparing yourself to others.

And obviously there's still the part of like spending a certain amount of time on social media or consuming so much content that it becomes overwhelming. But when you're looking at it more through the lens of like, oh, how can I create something and make something and that is almost like a hobby in some ways.

Yeah. And it kind of, it works a different part of the brain than just scrolling on Instagram with people that you know personally and like comparing yourself, which is hard not to do. So

Ellie: True. It's like you're building a business and. In order to build the [00:14:00] business even more, you do have to scroll on social media and I feel like having that mindset of scrolling, looking for ideas is so much better than just when I am about to go to bed and start scrolling and just Yeah, caring.

So yeah,

Sadie: there's like a, a purpose to it rather than just mindlessly doing something.

I love the episode that you did on your podcast where you talked about independence and doing your own thing, because I feel like teens don't really do this that much, especially in college.

Like you're spending so much time living with your friends, needing all your meals with your friends, and you're in classes with people all day, and so it's kind of a little bit out of the norm to spend more time with yourself. , but I totally agree with you that it can be really great for mental health, and I think it serves you really in the long term because you're able to be your best self when you're independent and having your own routine, and you're not relying on other people to kind of boost your mood and keep you going.

So what are your thoughts there as a teen, spending more time being independent? How did you kind of get to that, that point in your life?

Ellie: Well, I think that, In the beginning of my life, [00:15:00] I was kind of forced to always be alone. I switched schools a lot in middle school and high school and just growing up in general, and again, I just grew up with this thought in mind that I'm the only person that's going to be there for myself this whole time.

And like I have put my whole heart into being with girlfriends and. kind of losing myself when I hang out with people too much and at the end of the day, I, I mean, when I was growing up, I would have to move from them. But sometimes you have friend fallouts. Yeah. And at the end of the day you can look back and feel like, who am I without these other people?

And I also feel like with me gaining. Confidence for having independence. It made me take less shit from other people, if that makes sense. Yeah. We're like, before, if a friend was treating me badly, I would put up with it because I was like, I'm really scared to be alone versus the fact that I know myself and I [00:16:00] know that I'm going to be okay.

Either way, it kind of forced me to. Find better friends, and I'm still on that journey, very much so looking for good people to surround myself with, but I know that I can always be there for myself. .

Today's episode is brought to you by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is Better Health's online therapy program for teens.

They have over 14,000 licensed therapists within their network, and they offer support on things like depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and so much more. You guys know that therapy was a huge part of my mental health journey. It's a resource that was absolutely essential for me to recover, maintain my mental health, improve my emotion regulation, distress tolerance, all of the things.

If you would like to try meeting with a therapist or find a new therapist to meet with, you can go to teen counseling.com/she persisted. They offer talk text and video counseling all from your home. So no need to be on a super long wait list to find a therapist. They will also meet you [00:17:00] exactly where you're at with what level of support you're looking for.

So to check out teen counseling, you can go to teen counseling.com/she persisted to find a therapist that meets your needs.

Sadie: I do feel like one thing that's really interesting about your journey is that you are doing something that is different from a lot of your friends, which is that you're full-time working already.

A lot of people are going to college or they're focused on school, they're graduating, and I feel like a lot of teens relate to this, whether they're going to a different school from a lot of their friends, or maybe they're moving to a different part of the country, or maybe they just have really different interests in their friends.

what is your advice for teens that, again, are doing something slightly different and they're kind of second guessing themselves? Or like, I, I really am passionate. I know this is the route I wanna go, but I'm worried about whether people will think or say, or if I'm gonna be alone or if it's not gonna work out.

All those kinds of concerns that arise when you're doing your own thing, you're going on your own path and everyone else is kind of going in the other direct. Yeah,

Ellie: totally. I feel like I felt that way with even growing up in high school and I really [00:18:00] wanted to go to film school versus I went to a school where everyone wanted to be like a doctor or a lawyer.

All these totally different jobs, and I wanted to take a different path in people. I feel like it, I don't wanna diminish how significant the experience of doing something. Different than your peers is, it's like a big deal to go out of the norm of society and like the rat race of what everyone else is doing.

So first of all, having that self-confidence and I guess self-worth that like you, you're doing something and even had the thought to do something different than your peers is really special. Mm-hmm. , I also think that The minute that you hit some sort of success in the thing that you're doing that's different than your peers is the moment that you are going to feel like you did it and feel confident in yourself, if that makes sense.

Yeah. When I decided to go onto online high school when [00:19:00] everyone was still in school and start this social media path, I was so nervous about it and so scared, but as soon as. Turned it into a career and started working with brands that I really liked and started checking off my goals of what I was doing and knew that I was capable of doing.

Deep in my heart is the moment that I let go of whatever anyone else was doing. My mom always says see you at the finish line. Like, we'll see you all. When we're 70 and 80. Yeah. You know, wrinkled and whatever. So there's no point in doing, I guess, what everyone else is doing. If you have like the confidence that you described that you can do it, it it's, yeah.

Really strong of anyone that goes against what. if their school or their peers or their friends are

Sadie: doing a hundred percent. I think one of the best tips that I've ever heard with regard to doing your own thing and not comparing yourself to others' paths, especially with school and education and career, is to [00:20:00] really ask yourself like, would I want to be doing that?

And so especially at college, whenever I'm comparing myself to people who are like in the engineering school or in the business school, Pre-med. I'm like, do I wanna be doing pre-med and taking chemistry? No, absolutely not. That's my worst nightmare. I'm so fine taking psychology classes and so you have to be, that's so good.

Right?

Ellie: Oh my gosh. I think I even said this on my podcast, where sometimes I go back and I think like, . You know, I kind of wish that I was like going to a normal college and in a sorority and all these different things. Yeah. It's

Sadie: like, but would I wanna be studying for midterms right now? No. . No, absolutely not.

What , it's so helpful. True. And it brings you immediately back down to the moment and you're like, cookies. There's no point in comparing myself because I don't even want that. There's no, there's no point whatsoever. So I, that's one of the best tips that I've ever. For, for, if you're struggling with

Ellie: that.

I'm borrowing that tip. That's

Sadie: great. I love that. It's great. It's so good. It works all the time. . I [00:21:00] love how you talk about your relationship with your mom. You guys are so close and for so many teens, it's difficult to be vulnerable with their parents and have that open relationship and improve that relationship even.

So what are your, your tips and advice and things that have been helpful with your relationship with your parents to have them in your corner and be a, a main support system? .

Ellie: Yeah. First of all, I'm really lucky to have parents that care about what's going on in my life. I think that, it wasn't in my generations of family always like that.

Like both my parents had very distant parents that weren't in their lives. And so just starting out with the fact that I know that I'm really lucky that my mom and dad are genuinely my best friends. I think that. with bettering our relationship cuz my mom and i's relationship. We go through ups and downs all the times too.

I think that. The moment that I realized that she went through the same things as me just being a teenage girl growing up [00:22:00] is the moment that I felt like I could really trust her and lean into her advice before when I was growing up and I was maybe scared of her, scared to tell her things and all of that nature or like hide things from her.

I thought that she would judge me because I thought that I was the only one going through growing

Sadie: up. No. We all think that, we're like, you don't get it. You've never done this before. And it's like, no, they have .

Ellie: Yeah, they have. And like probably not that long ago. And they probably remember it too.

Yeah. And it's very like literally just today my mom said to me I'm debating moving out of LA or staying there or whatever. And she's like, I feel like you're just so sad all the time. And I was like, I'm 18. When you were 18, were you happy all the time? Yeah, she was like, No, I know

Yeah, so even just going back to clicking your parents into what you're going through and maybe even reminding them like when you were my age were you really happy? And my mom was like, n no, I guess you're right. [00:23:00] Yeah, it's really sad too all the time. So I think that like relating with them on that level.

How I created a better relationship

Sadie: with them. I tried to do that with my dad last night. I was like, well, you, when you were in college, what was your gpa? Did you get all A's? And he was like, well, I had only one A minus in high school. And I was like, okay. Not everyone is like you, , because this is not how.

Let's not reflect on your high school experience. . I saw a

Ellie: TikTok that was like, when you're trying to relate to your dad, but he went to Harvard and I was

Sadie: like, he did, he went to Harvard. And I was like, no.

Ellie: Maybe it was your

Sadie: TikTok, . I didn't make the TikTok, but I probably should because I was like, this is not gonna work out for me.

You should. You should . Oh my God. And then my sister's friend was in the room and she was like, my mom always does that. And she was valedictorian in high school. She was valedictorian at Cornell. And I was like, just emancipate yourself. Like you're just never gonna win that one.

Ellie: That's where you hit them with the like 2020, we like, they're, it's a different,

Sadie: we're different.

Gen Z is different. . Oh,

Ellie: like, so different. Are you [00:24:00] kidding? Yeah. Getting at 4.0 in high school 30 years ago is so different. Yeah. Than getting 4.0 now. It's

Sadie: insane. And even just like the amount of work we're doing and what it takes to apply to college today versus then, it's just a completely different ballgame.

So sometimes you gotta remind your parents, you gotta be like, things have changed, times have changed. It's very different now. But yeah,

Ellie: I agree. It's crazy. Just like explaining it to them and hopefully they have an open mind towards it.

Sadie: Yes, a hundred percent. What are the top, like two or three. Skills or routines that you pull from to maintain your mental health on a daily basis?

Ellie: A few things. , my first thing with maintaining a decent mental health state mm-hmm. , because I, I'm not the queen of mental health myself, but I think that, like, something that I do is keeping a routine for myself. And so, for example, my morning routine is very important to me.

The waking up, the [00:25:00] having my coffee, going to the gym, and then finally being like, okay, now I'm gonna face the world. , no one else exists. Except for me in the morning time. So I think that's been something that's been very important for me to keep doing and keep trying to like grow myself because, especially since I moved out from being with my family and like.

I live alone and it's really all up to me to create my own schedule. It can be very overwhelming at times and really take a toll on my mental health, but I think like writing down my list for what I wanna do in the day. It sounds so cliche, but like it, but it's helpful. Yeah. Yeah, it does really help me.

I think that another. Important tip that's helped my mental health is being aware when I'm on social media before, I think I used to like scroll and compare myself and I just wasn't even aware. But the fact that now I can pick up my phone and be like, okay, [00:26:00] you're about to see people that you're gonna compare yourself to.

Just know that you need to do things that make you feel good about you, and we're all living different lives is something that has, again, helped me as well. I love that. Do you have any good tips? Like I

Sadie: definitely, I know, right? I'll get, I'll try , we'll pick

I definitely love what you said about checking things off. I definitely take that to the max. I have my physical planner and then I have my digital one. I use a sauna, so you get to check everything off and it's so reinforcing whenever you get something done. So I'm like, we're gonna check it off on the.

And on paper because that's, it's just, it's, it's a boost to the mood. I definitely agree with routine. I think it's huge because you can't guarantee your mental health, but if you can guarantee these behaviors that will improve your mood, it kind of, you can go into autopilot and know that things will get better.

So that's another really big thing.

Ellie: Something that, again, my mom told me. Scheduling out the times that you are going to be [00:27:00] sad or let your mental health get to you if like, yeah, you are going through a difficult time. Sometimes I have to be like, you know what I'm scheduling out from seven to 8:00 PM I'm gonna be really sad and then I'm gonna go to bed.

Yeah. But right now it's 12 in the afternoon on a Monday and I like, can't I need to compartmentalize? If

Sadie: that makes sense. Yeah, a hundred percent. I, I think that's huge. That's definitely super helpful and I'm a big proponent of complaining, not all the time, but sometimes you're just gonna be like, this really sucks and it's not fair.

You just have to give yourself that moment to self validate and be, this isn't how I want it to be, because I feel like, especially. Maybe it's not, maybe it's like the generations above Gen Z. Maybe it's just some people they're like, complaining is bad. You shouldn't complain about anything. You need a positive outlook.

But sometimes you just gotta be like, this really sucks. Yeah. And it's, that's just how the situation is. And that can be so, so, so validating.

Ellie: That is so true. Again, I did that today as well. I was like complaining about something and I said to my mom, when you were [00:28:00] 18, did you go through this too?

And she was like, well, I was going to. This college and driving a bad car and not living by myself in LA and all these different things. And I was like, yeah, but I still am sad. Yeah, I, I think that like, it goes back to the saying just because someone broke their leg doesn't make my broken finger any less hurtful.

Yeah. All going through different things and to be able to just. Damn, that really sucks. Or right now I'm going through a bad time. Yeah, and just getting there to accept it and admit it is very important. I really like that tip as well.

Sadie: Yay. A hundred percent. No, I totally agree. I, I wanna make complaining not such a bad thing because it's helpful sometimes.

Ellie: That's a good podcast episode.

Sadie: I might take that for you. Do it a hundred percent. I'll listen. That's okay. My last question is about just general advice. If there was one or two things that you wish that your community knew having been a little bit on the, the further side of [00:29:00] going through their teenage years, and a lot of people listening and that follow are younger, if there was one piece of wisdom or advice or insight, you're like, I wish I could just have all of them believe this or know this about themselves, what would it.

Yeah. I

Ellie: think that really trusting that everything happens for a reason. Mm-hmm. , I remember growing up and going through bad times and looking back and like even going through bullying when I was in high school and I was like, what is up? Like what? Yeah, if it can be like this forever and look, it trained me to go into social media and I got so much hate at the beginning of it, but I got through it because of what happened in my earlier years.

Also, just accepting that growing up is so hard and , , just don't compare yourselves to people that are in different stages of your lives than you like. Yeah. I, being 18 and I remember being like [00:30:00] 15 and 16 and looking up at the 18 and 19 year olds and being like, wow, they really lived the life.

Kind of growing up a little too fast because I was comparing myself to people that were just in different stages of life than I was. And knowing that like, you're gonna get there. and you just gotta get through it, I guess. Yeah. Like it's really hard, but accepting it and taking care of yourself is really important.

Sadie: A hundred percent. Well, if people want to continue to follow you and listen to your podcast. Where can they do that? My

Ellie: podcast is called I'll Be Your Sister. You can find it wherever you get your podcast on Apple Podcast or on Spotify.

And my name is Ellie Zeiler and all of my platforms are my name.

Sadie: Perfect. All of that will be in the show notes. Thank you so much for joining me today, Ellie. This was amazing and I know that so many listeners are gonna find this so helpful. Thank you so much

Ellie: for having me. It was so nice to meet you.

Sadie: You too. Of course.

Thank you so much for listening to this week's [00:31:00] episode of she persisted. If you enjoyed, make sure to share with a friend or family member, it really helps out the podcast. And if you haven't already leave a review on apple podcasts or Spotify, you can also make sure to follow along at actually persisted podcast on both Instagram and Tik TOK, and check out all the bonus resources, content and information on my website.

She persisted podcast.com. Thanks for supporting. Keep persisting and I'll see you next week.

© 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.